Sir Peter Ustinov a personality determined by all he lacked.

Watching Logan’s Run with Michael York as Logan, Roscoe Lee Browne as the mechanical frozen box, and Peter Ustinov as the old man, I remembered that Ustinov was a secular humanist. He had been a patron of the British Humanist Association and served on their advisory council. That should be no surprised with his Saturn in the third house at 18 Virgo 57, because here the crystallizing mechanism of the god of the harvest, refines all thought and discourses. Here instead of faith, we get cold analytical thinking — everything is put to the test ala the doubting Thomas syndrome, of “show me the holes,” though in reality even that is questioned.

So I wondered, does his astrological chart support this? If one is looking at the temperament type, then the answer is no, for Marc Edmund Jones said Splashes were the “humanist type” defined by a Grand Trine of some type and no conjunctions (the less the better; the max is 2). Jones did not count any mathematical points (Ascendant, part of Fortune or Midheaven), nor the Moon’s Nodes. Using just the 12 planetary spheres, we find that Ustinov has no Grand Trine lurking within but a very amicable see-saw — half above and half below. From the type perspective, his chart and his philosophy do not mesh. Perhaps I began to think there was something else we should look towards?

This see-saw cuts the half in two, but the trines unite in Ustinov’s all the things that his chart misses.

Ustinov’s grandfather was a Russian officer in the tsar’s army who was exiled because of his religious beliefs. “It is for that reason,” Ustinov later said, “that I am addressing you today in English.” 

Peter Ustinov addressing a UNICEF gathering.

But alas that quote is problematic, because if Jupiter is in the third house at 09 Virgo 31, part of Ustinov’s charm was being a suave liar. That too is not surprisingly, Raymond Burr claimed he had a childhood in China as part of his oeuvre, W.C. Fields who left his fortune to homeless boys in Philadelphia often said “I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday.” and Children should neither be seen or heard from – ever again, stunned everyone with his epitaph “I’d rather be in Philadelphia.” It is rather ironic for Ustinov with his incredulous, that the very field he chose, was all about tricking the audience into believing you are the character on stage as he recounts when meeting American Roman Catholic priest they each said, “I never thought I would be shaking the hand of Nero.”

Conjunction are awareness

His ascendant at 22 Cancer, HS “poet writing secret thoughts” works well for a man who wrote several books, including for watery Cancer rising, on sailing and the sea. The keyword is Sensible but alas since his ascendant is in the first house, was probably more prone to trusting to fortune than he ought but that was part of the whole horoscope that united creating his eccentric and irascible persona.

The two noticeable things in Ustinov’s chart is lacks a conjunction and also has no planets in air signs. In Ustinov’s case, he has a planetary preponderance in the eleventh house, important because it shows his tendency for associations and groups, and since the fifth house is empty, how he maybe attracted to children’s interests. Both of these things work well for him — he was  Goodwill Ambassador for UNICEF ( United Nations International Children’s Emergency Fund) and President of the World Federalist Movement, an organization committed to global peace and justice through the development of democratic institutions and international law. 

But that brings us to what his chart is missing, for Marc Edmund Jones felt that was missing in a chart was as important as what was depicted. Already we have seen that missing planetary representation in the fifth house of creativity and children made him very active in that area, so what could the lack of air and no conjunctions do too? Here we see Ustinov set off like Don Quixote fighting against the windmills of his time, totally immersed in the project, only to suddenly change gears and jump into another, building his energy from their disparity — the preponderance of trines probably helped here as it weaved the various threads into his life.

lack of air makes for resourcefulness

The lack of planets in air signs made him open to advice, for while he was lacking in self-direction so while he was busy, doing lots of things — books, charity work, acting . Peter would you? Are you interested in? and the answer would be an affable Yes and another project would be added to his retinue. This lack of air though actually helped him work all the various threads together as it made him more resourceful than he would normally be and also take greater risks — his uneven acting career (from Spartacus to War and Peace to Logan’s Run) is a good example of this — that others wanting their careers to be of a piece would shun.

The download chart shows all the various asteroids that make up his ancestry: Russian, German and Ethiopian, and the two places that were the greatest personal affect on his life: London where he was born and Basel Switzerland when he fled from the British tax man. Nonetheless despite not wanting to support the great British state, he was knighted for his good works with UNICEF.

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Grizzly Man, Tim Treadwell

Who was Tim Treadwell?

Timothy Treadwell was born Timothy Dexter in Ronkonkoma, a hamlet outside of Islip, Suffolk Count (aka Long Island) New York on April 29, 1958 under a new moon, nicknamed the “Widow Maker;” his ex-girlfriend who worked with him for many years said during the documentary that she felt like the “widow,” as she is the only one from Alaska who was still alive. She spoke highly of both Tim and Amie who was with him for the last 2 summers only.

Most of the women, including the “Widow” who stayed for 6, refused to live that close to the bears, rightfully scared of them. Tim as a eco-film maker, filming his summer visits in Katmai National Park & Preserve, near King Salmon, Alaska.

Katmai National park & Preserve

His Ascendant is partile the fixed star Almach. According to Ptolemy the influence of this constellation is similar to that of Venus, probably exalted in Pisces as it bestows purity of thought, virtue, honor and dignity upon its natives. It makes the native fanciful and gives a great bond between husband and wife, like Tim had with his partner Amie Huguenard, who fought off the bear instead of taking Tim’s advice and running away.

Timothy and Amie

Amie was from Buffalo, New York and 8 years younger, born October 23, 1965. The family released no photos of Amie & her family refused to talk to Herzog for the documentary. The shot of the couple was time elapsed.

Hero of Werner Herzog’s Grizzly Man…Tim Treadwell. His father said that Treadwell was a family name and that when his acting career failed, he “spiralled down.” Saturn on the 1st house cusp shows his allure with the dark side of human nature.

In Tim’s case, the Sun is found in its essential home but in Taurus. In an interesting switch, Uranus who is afflicted in Leo because it is the ruler of Aquarius, is found in the 8th house that is ruled by Mars. In this case, Uranus is afflicts the Sun, and historically foretold of death by hanging, decapitation, or crucifixion.

The grisly death

When Treadwell died, he chose to set his campsite near a salmon stream where grizzlies commonly feed in the fall. He was also in the park later than usual, when bears struggle to gain as much fat as possible before winter, and limited food supplies cause them to be more aggressive than in other months.

Tim was 45 at the time of his death; Amie had not yet hit 37. The Neptune at the 10th house highlights his diving scholarship for Bradley University, California. But the real issue of course is the murder. The chart above is the progressed chart for Tim at the time of death — he was eaten by a bear. The star Ursinus (The Great Bear) appears in Capricorn, so I would imagine that the chart is showing the “fear” of the bear in the 12th house became real.

This fear was expressed often by the women in his life — the Moon — found at the time of death in Capricorn which is in its detriment because the Moon is exalted in Cancer of course.

Before the killing, his girlfriend Amie wanted to leave him and the site, because she was petrified of the bears but she was trapped (Moon in the 12th) with no way to get out because they were reliant on a airplane that showed up erratically.
Tim did not share this fear because the chart’s NN in Sagittarius is in its exaltation, he felt that she was over reacting , just like all the others, had. Instead the NN points that he thought the bears noble creatures and would not do that. The SN in the 6th house shows how wrong he was — and sextile the 8th the outcome –death by bear.

Thanks to Alexis Williams of Death and Astrology for pointing out the missing explanation of the Tertiary Converse chart.

Food was scarce that fall, so the grizzly bears were more aggressive than usual. Tim, Werner reported wanted to stay longer, because he had never been part of that period and thought it was would be interesting to film. Him & his girlfriend’s remains were not really found. Instead, the pathologist reviewing the contents had just body parts with the rest of their remains detected within the man-eating bear itself after it was killed and autopsied.

The chart above, shows how his ascendant at 00 Sagittarius 45, went into the next decan at 12 Sag at the time of his death on October 6 2003. They had no gun with them for protection, just a “frying pan” (Mars in its essential house) that Amie used to beat off the attack.

#903 Was Thelma Todd Murdered?

Thelma Todd was the daughter of a pair of immigrants: John Todd of Ireland and Alice Edwards of Canada. They met in Boston where John was working in the rug trade. It was a whirlwind courtship and they married on June 20, 1900 in Lawrence, Massachusetts, about 30 miles away in a Congregationalist ceremony.

On July 27, 1903 their first son, William was born, and then three years later, on July 29. 1906 was their daughter, Thelma, a popular name of the time. Marc Jones has no time listed though the back of the book supposes a 9:13 PM time.

Bloody childhood

Here Thelma has an interesting yod from Uranus in the 7th to Saturn in the 9th that ends around her Sun at 9 Leo. The Point Focus is about her South Node at 9 Leo — glass blowers distorting reality — in the 8th House. Thelma is a Locomotive Temperament Type with a Grand trine in Water highlighting how she tends to be easily swayed by her companions. The sextile midpoint to the Saturn – Water is Uranus making that her focal determinator that works because of her invention of female slapstick comedy — formerly just a male provenience.
The top chart is our rectification. The bottom is found in the Sabian Symbols but not noted in the noted. It gives her a stellium in the 5th and 4th houses. While a case could be made for the 5th, creative aspirations, the 4th is a stretch. Here though the ascendant is 28 Pisces — a fertile garden under a full moon.

Ice Cream, He Screamed

When Thelma was about 4 years old, her mother took her and brother William to Randolph, Vermont, where she had a family. Unfortunately, during the stay, one of the Randolph cousins brought William to the local creamery where he worked to show off the machinery. William fascinated by the work, escaped on the last day of the trip to go back to the creamery & get closer to peer at the works.

Alas Willie got too close,  and his clothes became entangled in the machine and was mangled with severe head and neck injuries. It took some time for him to die, a full month, but it must have been gruesome, with no penicillin to stem the infection or advanced surgery to save the boy; he was 8 years old.

Map of Randolph, Vermont c. 1948 from Vermont Vintage Maps.

John Todd became a town alderman, Thelma grew up and got some acting skills in high school drama, and upon graduation went to the Lawrence Normal school (now University of Massachusetts at Lawrence) for a degree in teaching. Still, the acting bug had taken hold of her and in 1925 she applied for Jesse Lasky’s Famous Players-Lasky acting school; there was no fit, and she returned home and her coursework.

Miss Massachusetts

Unperturbed by that response, Thelma decided that she would run for the Miss Massachusetts contest which she won amid great applause.. From there she was a shoe model for the Haverhill (Mass) Shoe Manufacturers’ and then with the urging of another friend, the two girls ran away to Long Island, New York and Lasky’s group for another try out at his school. This time worked out better: she had more grace and poise and she was a Paramount trainee. Alot of her allure was her mass of golden curls, ever-ready smile and willingness to learn. Three years later she got a contract with Paramount studios itself and she was off and running.

The road to success is never that even and straight, and for Thelma, it was marred by constant weight battles, her contract specified she had to stay around 122 pounds give or take a pound. Plus movies themselves were changing with Al Jolson and the Talkies and without much planning, Thelma found herself the Queen of Slapstick, or Screwball Comedy, and set the tone for future actresses as the Ice Cream Wise-Cracking Blonde, but Thelma felt pigeon-holed.

Marriage and Pat DiCicco

Thelma and Pat on their wedding day on Long Island

Like many a young modern woman, she played the field, with a new beau every week; the gossip mags loved her — she was photogenic and her beaux were equally good-looking men that helped drive circulation. Then she met and fell for Pat (Pasquale) De Cicco a mysterious polo player from Queens, New York. They married in July 1932 but rumours were that it was a “shotgun affair. ” A few months later she was in the hospital from a botched abortion and then an automobile crash 3 months after that, and still within the first 6 months their marriage, that Thelma broke 3 ribs. Being just 26 she rebounded well, and was back in pictures but her quickie marriage was showing a lot of strain from her frenetic movie schedule and by 1934 it was over — Pat was playing the field, and not just in Polo.

5:28 is the approximate time of death according to the LAPD coroner. Notice Mars is right on the 8th house cusp conjunct the South Node in Aquarius — 08 Aquarius Mars (beautifully gowned wax figures ) that show her reliance throughout her life on chance. Both are in Aquarius, the ruler with modern gases. The South Node here highlights her bad luck with men, Pat DeCicco was thought by many to be a gangster; Gloria Vanderbilt married him nonetheless.

Her stellium in the 1st house shows how much Thelma was willful and undisciplined in obtaining her goals — if she wanted it she worked hard to get it. She was rather obsessive about succeeding in her chosen career at all costs — see the trine to the Moon in Scorpio. Unfortunately this self-centeredness led to poor relationships because she cared more for her career than her personal / married life. Eventually the square to the Midheaven at 06 Aries – ideals crystallized in too true colours — showed her the ugly side of Hollywood — drugs, sex and gangsters that because of her lack of inner or relationship support led to unhappiness.

The South transiting conjunction shows her Saturn return, she was 29, and the stresses that caused her because she does not seem to have enough inner strength to face them or outer support to help her along. (the 4th quadrant is rather empty except for the plastic film fans.) Her PoF at death is 21 Leo, SS, chickens intoxicated,. showing her bondage to unnecessary external things.
Zasu Pitts, Thelma’s best friend and co-star on many of their 1930’s slapstick comedies.

Single again, Thelma had little time for men, her career was booming, she had travelled to England and worked for Stanley Lupino (Ida’s father) in a very successful film and now was only the Hollywood magazines for her film promotion. Then just as suddenly on the morning of Dec. 16, 1935, Todd’s maid found her employer’s body in the garage, slumped over the wheel of her Lincoln convertible.

The coroner ruled her death a suicide from carbon monoxide poisoning. But Thelma’s best friend, and fellow comedienne ZaSu Pitts, cried “murder, ” and LAPD ran a full investigation.


Between the alcohol and the many amphetamines to lose weight, Thelma was not the first — that ignominious status goes to beautiful Barbara LaMarr (next to Thelma below on the right and the “namesake for gorgeous Heddy)– nor would be the last, that the fast life style of Hollywood would spit out from stress, overwork & loneliness.

Like Marilyn Monroe 30 years later, who had a similar career path, controversy surrounds her demise. In both cases fans could not reconcile the suicide with the glamoured portraits they read each week in the fanzines — they were at odds at their mental instability, drug addiction, wild lifestyles and gangster connections (which definitely was not reported). In both cases, suicide is, unfortunately, the most likely cause of death. Other ice cream blondes, Jones must have adored them, are in his 1000 too — Jean Harlow and Carole Lombard, but both were lucky and died of natural causes.


  • All symbols were from Marc Jones Sabian Symbols Book, 1953 ed. from the Sabian Publishing Society.
  • Morgan, Michelle, Ice Cream Blonde: The Whirlwind Life and Mysterious Death of Screwball Comedienne Thelma Todd, Chicago: Chicago Review Press, 2016. {I read the Kindle edition}

#904 Regis Toomey actor gallant

I’ve seen Mr. Toomey a zillion times in old movies and never knew his name. he always plays nice fellows, smiling chaps that character actor you know you can count on in a movie to pull his weight. Unfortunately, outside of his obit, there was little I could find on him. Wikipedia filled in that he was married for 56 years before she died and had 2 children.

Things like this make rectification difficult, though not impossible, just difficult, but I know one thing for sure, he’s not a Libra. He has Venus in that sign, and in the 6th house showing how much that helped him in a long film career, but despite that we’ve pegged him 04 Taurus — the leprechauns pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. The Keyword is hopefulness.

He has a stellium in the 3rd house that tells us he tended to be a worrywart, and was too concerned about his public images for his own happiness, and often scoured the review pages for how the critics rated his performance. His north node is in Capricorn in the 9th house repeats this problem and that his feelings of personal prestige were shaped by a desire to do well in his film career, not well regarded, and that his acquaintances and relationships was influenced by how it affected his social status and whether they would pan out . This made him conservative in his film choices and why he never jumped over to major Starring roles where some amount of risk taking is necessary.

From the LA Times obit…

Actor Regis Toomey, best known for his man-of-action roles and for taking part in what they billed as the longest on-screen kiss in Hollywood history, died Saturday at the Motion Picture and Television Hospital in Woodland Hills. He was 93.

Toomey appeared in over 200 movies during his long career, including such films as “Northwest Mounted Police,” “Dive Bomber” and “The Big Sleep.” In the 1940s feature, “You’re in the Army Now,” he and co-star Jane Wyman kissed for 185 seconds. It was called the longest kiss in movie history.

Former President Ronald Reagan–who was Wyman’s husband during his years as an actor–recently visited Toomey’s bedside along with Nancy Reagan. Toomey, a longtime friend of the Reagans, died of natural causes, a hospital spokeswoman said.

Clara Bow and Regis Toomey

With his Irish grin and tough-guy demeanor, Toomey often played the victim of screen violence. In fact, early in his career, he was “killed” so often that he moodily wondered if he shouldn’t be voted the “morticians’ man of the year.”

“I was Danny McGann, an undercover homicide cop who had gotten friendly with the crooks,” Toomey recalled, describing one of his screen personas during a 1963 interview. “It was a good part–until the crooks shot me. This was the first of a long series of death scenes. The trouble was that in each succeeding picture I got knocked off sooner, so the roles were growing smaller.”

At one point, he vowed never to do another film in which he was killed. Then he was called by Cecil B. De Mille to play a part in “Union Pacific,” in which he would be killed by Anthony Quinn during a poker game.

“For you, I’ll do it,” he told De Mille, joking later that “it wasn’t so bad. I died in Barbara Stanwyck’s arms. If you gotta go, that’s as good a way as any.”

Born in Pittsburgh, Pa., on Aug. 13, 1898, Toomey graduated from the University of Pittsburgh and did postgraduate work in drama at the Carnegie Institute of Technology. He intended to be a lawyer but changed his mind and became a stage actor and singer who toured England in George M. Cohan’s “Little Nelly Kelly.”

In 1928, Toomey appeared with Chester Morris in “Alibi,” the first all-talking gangster melodrama. Three years later, he appeared opposite Clara Bow in “Kick In,” which was Bow’s first sound movie. Among Toomey’s later credits were “Spellbound,” “The Bishop’s Wife,” “Show Boat,” “Warlock,” “The Mighty Joe Young,” “Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea,” “Peter Gunn” and “The Carey Treatment.”

#901 Actress Gene Tierney is Laura

In “Women Crime Writers: Eight Suspense Novels of the 1940s and 50s,” edited by Sarah Weinman and published by the Library of America, Megan Abbott, a woman crime writer of the 2000s, points out that “women are the primary readers of crime fiction.” She notes a popular theory that opines “women savor the victim role,” for they “are masochists, unable to rise above the roles assigned them by the patriarchy.”

New Yorker Magazine, The Secrets of Vera Caspary, the Woman Who Wrote “Laura” by Michelle Dean, 9/15/2015

Otto Preminger’s movie “Laura” written by Vera Caspary, throws that notion on its head, just like most of the movies that Gene Tierney starred in did; she was never the hapless heroine, but always ready to role up her sleeves and get to work. Laura Hunt was such a plum role, that Marlene Dietrich auditioned for it and when Tierney landed it instead, Caspary thought hertoo “gorgeous” to give her role weight; the author was dead wrong.

The original time cited.

Tierney’s chart

The birth details stated in the Sabian Symbols is November 20 1920 in Brooklyn, New York for 5:15 pm is incorrect. The real date according to her daughter Christina Cassini is November 19 1920 .

Her own autobiography surprisingly never mentions the date though it does discuss lots of others events in her life including her parents Howard and Belle Tierney, a former gymnast. She was the second of three children, a brother Howard called Butch was older and a sister Patricia was younger. This new information from Ms. Cassini rectifies Gene’s (named for her mother’s brother) chart to Taurus 21 “a high wind at sea” reminding of us her role in the Ghost and Mrs. Muir though its mesmerizing and lethalness could be the tagline for “Laura” and its heroine as well. The symbol’s keyword is “”Change,” suggesting her versatility in acting and breaking away from her domineering stage-father Howard Sr.

Tierney’s midheaven us 01 Aquarius, a “Mouse sits up to reach a bit of food” and is conjunct her Mars in the 9th house showing how much she craved that extra attention and fame. She has a Grand trine in Water in her chart from the Moon in the 11th House to Pluto in the 3rd and culminating, though trines never finish, Saturn in the 5th.

Corrected chart

Gene married twice. the first time to designer Oleg Cassini, a Russian Count, with whom she had two daughters, Antionette Daria and Christina. The many stresses of her marriage to Cassini are documented well in her autobiography including how she contracted measles during her pregnancy with Daria. Her second marriage was to oil tycoon W. Howard Lee, previously married to Hedy Lamar. She died on November 6 1991 from emphysema, ten years after Lee himself had reposed.


  1. Tierney, Gene, Self-Portrait, Wyden Books, c. 1979 — the better of the two bios.
  2. Vogel, Michelle & Cassini, Christina, “Gene Tierney: A Biography,” McFarland Publishing, c. 2005.

Roscoe Lee Brown has something to say

Starting out

Roscoe Lee Brown was born on May 2nd 1922 in Woodbury, Gloucester County, New Jersey (not far east of Philadelphia) to a Baptist Minister and his wife. He went to Lincoln College, (now Lincoln University) an all black college in Lincoln College, Pennsylvania and then served in the army in WWII. Afterward he returned to Lincoln to teach French and comparative literature, but at the same time competing internationally as a track star. In 1951 he won the world championship in the 800-yard dash.

Capitalizing on that recognition he was hired by Schenley Import, Corporation, at that time a Kahlua and sole Guinness Stout importer, where he worked as a sales representative until 1956. Then one night he decided, during dinner with friends, he decided to break out & become an actor. The next day he auditioned for, and won, a role in a production at the newly-formed New York Shakespeare Festival.

This is not my favourite scene btw. Mine is his hanging, alas it is not on utube.

He began as a fixture of New York Shakespeare Festival productions and then in 1961 joined James Earl Jones in the original cast of a long running Off Broadway production of “The Blacks” by Jean Genet. But he broke out with his portrayal of the mutinous slave Babu in a 1964 production of “Benito Cereno,” a one-act that was part of Robert Lowell’s trilogy “The Old Glory.” Later in career he was Dr. Foster on the Bill Cosby Show and the cook Jebediah Nightlinger in “The Cowboys.”

The Quincy Tale

In 1974, Quincy Jones suffered an aneurysm. He was given a one-in-a-hundred chance of surviving the operation, and when the doctors shaved his head they saved the hair in a plastic bag, in case they needed to glue it back onto his corpse. By the time it was clear that the operation had been successful, an elaborate memorial concert had already been planned, so Jones figured it might as well go ahead.

“They had invited just about everybody I’d ever known and cared about,” he recalls. “Cannonball Adderley with Freddie Hubbard in the band; Sarah Vaughan; Minnie Riperton; The Main Ingredient, with Cuba Gooding, Sr., on lead vocals; Ray Charles; Billy Eckstine; the Watts Prophets; Marvin Gaye. Roscoe Lee Brown did a recitation… “

Quincy Jones, New Yorker Magazine, October 8th 2001 issue

Even with metal plates in his head, witnessing a memorial service for himself, Jones could not help admiring the talent onstage. “That’s some lineup,” he admits.

The chart

With little information on Roscoe, we’ve pegged him to 19 Cancer, (HS) an “artists model of a legendary bird” because of his ability to take elements of the known make them a whole ” for someone else to use.

With his stellium in the 12th house of great service and secret enemies, highlighting his need to speak out about the racism he raced and with the ruler of the 12th in the 2nd, and sextile, suggests his need to avoid stereotypical “black” roles and instead stand on his own (he played many Shakespearean roles beyond Othello)–see the trine to Mars in the 6th that supports this.

His 4th house with Saturn opposite the Midheaven says he looked for a career that would allow him to be a “voice” of the times. His ascendant in Cancer is trine Saturn in the 4th and its Lord in the 10th suggests he found some amount of success in his life but also hints at the gastric cancer from which he died at 81.

As always, thanks for dropping in and if you enjoyable our writeup on the late Mr. Brown, please give us a like.

Crooning with Hoagy Carmichael

When we started this project, three years ago on August 29th, we began with mundane charts and the Invasion of Poland, September 1st, 1939. No one remembers when we changed over to mainly nativities, but by February 2017 we were back to the natals I had started as a solo project several years previous.

It must have been around March when Hoagy Carmichael, not part of the Jones 1000 surprisingly, was suggested but I no longer remember why. He was tough, so tough, that we finally gave up and shelved him. We decided that this musical genius could just about fit anything, & our software, Matrix’s WinStar Basic though better than anything on the web was still kludgey & imprecise and we lost hope. I think it was Hoagy that forced the upgrade to Kepler, a mixed bag to be honest and not one I am sure I would recommend, but it is far superior to WB.

Recently, a friend who reads the blog, asked “How bout Hoagy?” and I recanted our travail. He laughed, and I thought, surely by now with nearly 800 charts under our belt, we could tackle him; well that’s the hope, but rectification is a tricky thing and you never can tell.

A circus act

When Hoagy was born on November 22, 1899, in Bloomington Indiana, the the center of the nation’s population was on Henry Marr’s farm in Columbus roughly 40 miles due east. Because of its proximity, to the “center of the nation,” it was a popular tourist area, as everyone was coming from miles around to see what that the “center” looked like. Travelling acts toured came to Bloomington to entertain the masses, and one called the the Hoagland’s High Wire Act stayed at the Carmichael home for a bit — and gave the yet to be born baby his rather unique name. His middle name was far more prosaic: Howard, named for his electrician father — a new field thanks to the inventive Thomas Alva Edison.

We pegged Hoagy to being born sometime around 12 noon — the historic time for the coronation of kings, though odd set for someone born in the Heartland of America, but more apropos than anyone had then realized. His biographer, Richard Sudhalter met him on trip to Buenos Aires and was so entranced by Hoagy he wrote his biography, calling him the “most talented, inventive, sophisticated and jazz-oriented of all the great craftsmen” in the first half of the 20th century. To be honest, that’s probably an understatement as so much of he did affected so many other musicians afterwards. This illustrious time though, gives Hoagy the symbol of 23 Aquarius (HS) of “The Koran Upraised” with the keyword of “Justification.” Kent McClung in his Hyperion Symbols writes this is suggestive of someone who is accepted as a “king” based more on his nature than birth.

Hoagy’s midheaven is 09 Sagittarius or “crickets chirping in the tall grass on a sunny day” was actually performed in the Bogart-Bacall classic “To Have and Have not.” The ad blurbs joked about Bogey and Hoagy and Bacall, it was an obvious quip, and good copy.

the begin of the beguine

Like many songwriters before the 1960’s Hoagy began his songwriting career on Tin Pan Alley like Scott Joplin, Cole Porter (who and not Hoagy wrote the Begin of the Beguine but also a Hoosier), Irving Berlin & more recently Burt Bacharach, & Neil Diamond. He was the first though, to transition over as a singer of his own songs. Not to let the grass grow under his feat, Hoagy true to his Aquarius rising was the first to utilize new technologies as they came along like television, electronic microphones and sound recordings, * but there he was following his old man’s footsteps and hitching his star to the trend.

Hoagy though came to music because he was forced to withdraw from law school on January 3, 1923 , not because he did not like the law but because he could not pay the tuition. His mother had been a music teacher so he had learned to read and write music on the piano from her, and he was selling a song here and there on the Campus, so Hoagy had an inkling that this may pan out.

from Richard Sudhalter’s bio, Stardust Melody: the Life & Music of Hoagy Carmichael, OUP c. 2002

His hunch was right and he had many more hits and almost single-handedly fueled the Big Bands of the 30’s. The famous “Old Buttermilk Sky” that put the Kay Kyser band on the map, and one of the first tunes played by our trumpet impresario Bobby Guy, was written by Hoagie. Ray Charles’s famous “Georgia” was penned by Hoagie too. And of course, there was StarDust.

As his songs caught on, other Alley writers were able to successfully transition too and music,and musicals were the theme of the day. His music was so much a part of Americana that many of them are just called “Standards” — songs that every vocalist is expected to be sing for their first job when they have no music of their own — just ask that heart throb of the 30’s Frank Sinatra.

The Chart

Hoagy is a see-saw temperament type though prior to Pluto’s discovery he would be a wheelbarrow. He has an incredible stellium in the 10th house that ricochets back to the 4th because of his distrust of authority figures. The 4th house works as Hoagy’s base — sometimes song writing, other times singing and eventually turning to the ethereal media of film and television trying to take the pressure off himself and free himself of the constraints of management. His Part of Fortune at Libra 26 in Scorpio was the death of his youngest sister that put the fear of poverty into him and made him use his Muse (the Moon in Leo in the 5th) at every angle.

“Play me a Hoagy Carmichael song and I hear the banging of a screen door and the whine of an outboard motor on a lake—sounds of summer
in a small-town America that is long gone but still longed for.”

William Zinsser, author of “On Writing Well” in The American Scholar 1994


  1. Tin Pan Alley took its name from a small side street in NYC at 28th Street between Fifth Avenue and Broadway in the early 20th century. It was a joke on the sound of pianos being pounded as their writers demonstrated their tunes to the musical publishers. The songwriters, all independents (they were not employed by the musical publishers by paid by royalty) created the commercial music of the day. Originally major sales were for home musicians and vaudeville, then player pianos and eventually songs for established vocalists, Broadway and bands to perform.
  2. Philadelphia’s famous Hoagie sandwich was not named for him.

Christian Bale is Batman

Christian Charles Philip Bale was born to English parents in Haverfordwest, Wales on January 30 1974. We chose 10 Gemini or 12:12 in the afternoon for his ascendant because of his incredible acting versatility. The 7th House of Scorpio is empty but right near it is Neptune at 10 Sagittarius as Bale sites that meeting his “foreign” wife totally changed his mind on marriage or as our editor Mo Saladin says “reformed” it as in changing shape, altering one’s mind as a catalyst to fulfilling one’s “obligation.”

We rectified his ascendant to 10 Gemini. We don’t know what time was married, just the day and place, so we picked 6 PM — an evening wedding so it would be near his birthday.
Bale marries Sandra Blazic. Neptune now is in the 9th house where it is a reformative process that encourages him to be obligated to another because of the great love he has for his wife (Natal Venus). the Moon in Scorpio,a creative regeneration, is now in his 7th house of partnerships and opportunities.

In the Dark Knight, the first of the Batman trilogy by Christopher Nolan, his adversary is the Joker played by the late Heath Ledger. At one point the Joker calls himself “Chaos” and of course Batman is a modern day Hercules.

This is the chart for Bale and Ledger for their roles in Batman: Dark Knight. Both are Englishmen not born in England btw. In the synastic charts, we see Lilith in Bale’s chart working with the willfulness of Ledger’s Sun in the 7th house as to why the antagonistic relationship worked so well. We have pegged Ledger at 11 Libra for his Perth Australia birth time — Kepler does not adjust correctly for Australian DST though does have the correct information. Australian based Solar Fire is wrong as well.

We will do a fuller writeup on Ledger in another post.

A laugh a minute – Tim Conway

Comedian Tim Conway was born Toma Daniel Conway to Sophia Murgoi, a Romanian immigrant, and Daniel Conway, an Irish immigrant and a groomer for polo ponies in Willoughby, Ohio, a suburb of Cleveland, on December 13, 1933. He grew up in nearby Chagrin Falls.

His birth name Toma was the Romanian version of Thomas, but later it was anglicized to Thomas in his childhood — there is no record as to why. Later on, for professional reasons, probably the Screen Actor’s Guild as it does not allow two performers to have the same name, he changed it again to Tim to avoid confusion with actor Tom Conway (brother of George Sanders). Having grown up with horses, Conway was an avid race horse fan and owner as well.

Conway and Mary Anne and four of the six Conways at home. Kelly, is to the right of her mother.

He was married twice. The first time was to  Mary Anne Dalton from 1961 for 17 years and six children. The second time was to Charlene Fusco in 1984, who outlives him.

Seeking Tim Conway††

We have rectified Tim to 13 Libra instead of the standard 05 Libra. He is locomotive temperament type opened to the South highlighting his self-sacrificing nature and public acclaim for his work both professionally and privately.

We chose 13 Libra over 05 Libra for various reasons, and one was the aspect of asteroid Niobe conjunct his Sun — problems with children later in life. This unfortunately came to pass when his daughter Kelly sued for physical control of her father’s healthcare against her step-mother as Tim had developed dementia from normal pressure hydrocephalus, or an abnormal buildup of spinal fluid because of a head trauma, stroke, infection or brain tumor; there is no cure.

an older Tim with wife Charlene

Other aspects of his life also suggested “lighting the morning fire” or keeper of the flame was more apropos Conway than an “orrery slowing turning by a hermit’s hand, ” including Uranus at 24 Aries in the 7th house — as his comic wite played off others than typical stand-up. It was key to his genius that he used deadpan, mimicry and slapstick so well while improvising his routine based on his partner’s response — in McHale’s Navy, Parker and Binghamton (Joe Flynn) are a tour de force of comedy each playing off each and other trying to get the best laugh, best shown by his Pluto in the 10th opposite Mars and Lilith in the 4th (the two are our header photo). It would seem that these traits were something he had be learning for a while to get attention and had learned to transform it into comedic art.

Kelly and her father Tim Conway

Another asset Conway had that he used well was his facial control that made his features like silly putty, changing it from happy smiles to sudden misery or shock and dismay to happiness again. Jupiter in the first house at 18.58 Libra was helped by his fast mental chemistry here in anticipating responses and being able to demonstrate it ably.

His North Node is in the creative 5th house in Aquarius that signifies a close relationships with children. The NN here are good people watchers, spending their time pondering the possibilities of other’s action and reactions to situations. They tend to be ingenuous and not very practical with money or friends — they tend to follow their heart in both matters.

Tim Conway reposed on May 14 2019. Happily for us, we have re-runs.