Don Imus died today. Age 79. See the Hollywood Reporter for more. In NYC and its environs he was either loved or hated — but everyone knew him. A nonpareil, he will be missed.
Him and his archrival the copycat Howard Stern.
When we started this project, three years ago on August 29th, we began with mundane charts and the Invasion of Poland, September 1st, 1939. No one remembers when we changed over to mainly nativities, but by February 2017 we were back to the natals I had started as a solo project several years previous.
It must have been around March when Hoagy Carmichael, not part of the Jones 1000 surprisingly, was suggested but I no longer remember why. He was tough, so tough, that we finally gave up and shelved him. We decided that this musical genius could just about fit anything, & our software, Matrix’s WinStar Basic though better than anything on the web was still kludgey & imprecise and we lost hope. I think it was Hoagy that forced the upgrade to Kepler, a mixed bag to be honest and not one I am sure I would recommend, but it is far superior to WB.
Recently, a friend who reads the blog, asked “How bout Hoagy?” and I recanted our travail. He laughed, and I thought, surely by now with nearly 800 charts under our belt, we could tackle him; well that’s the hope, but rectification is a tricky thing and you never can tell.
When Hoagy was born on November 22, 1899, in Bloomington Indiana, the the center of the nation’s population was on Henry Marr’s farm in Columbus roughly 40 miles due east. Because of its proximity, to the “center of the nation,” it was a popular tourist area, as everyone was coming from miles around to see what that the “center” looked like. Travelling acts toured came to Bloomington to entertain the masses, and one called the the Hoagland’s High Wire Act stayed at the Carmichael home for a bit — and gave the yet to be born baby his rather unique name. His middle name was far more prosaic: Howard, named for his electrician father — a new field thanks to the inventive Thomas Alva Edison.
We pegged Hoagy to being born sometime around 12 noon — the historic time for the coronation of kings, though odd set for someone born in the Heartland of America, but more apropos than anyone had then realized. His biographer, Richard Sudhalter met him on trip to Buenos Aires and was so entranced by Hoagy he wrote his biography, calling him the “most talented, inventive, sophisticated and jazz-oriented of all the great craftsmen” in the first half of the 20th century. To be honest, that’s probably an understatement as so much of he did affected so many other musicians afterwards. This illustrious time though, gives Hoagy the symbol of 23 Aquarius (HS) of “The Koran Upraised” with the keyword of “Justification.” Kent McClung in his Hyperion Symbols writes this is suggestive of someone who is accepted as a “king” based more on his nature than birth.
Hoagy’s midheaven is 09 Sagittarius or “crickets chirping in the tall grass on a sunny day” was actually performed in the Bogart-Bacall classic “To Have and Have not.” The ad blurbs joked about Bogey and Hoagy and Bacall, it was an obvious quip, and good copy.
Like many songwriters before the 1960’s Hoagy began his songwriting career on Tin Pan Alley like Scott Joplin, Cole Porter (who and not Hoagy wrote the Begin of the Beguine but also a Hoosier), Irving Berlin & more recently Burt Bacharach, & Neil Diamond. He was the first though, to transition over as a singer of his own songs. Not to let the grass grow under his feat, Hoagy true to his Aquarius rising was the first to utilize new technologies as they came along like television, electronic microphones and sound recordings, * but there he was following his old man’s footsteps and hitching his star to the trend.
Hoagy though came to music because he was forced to withdraw from law school on January 3, 1923 , not because he did not like the law but because he could not pay the tuition. His mother had been a music teacher so he had learned to read and write music on the piano from her, and he was selling a song here and there on the Campus, so Hoagy had an inkling that this may pan out.
His hunch was right and he had many more hits and almost single-handedly fueled the Big Bands of the 30’s. The famous “Old Buttermilk Sky” that put the Kay Kyser band on the map, and one of the first tunes played by our trumpet impresario Bobby Guy, was written by Hoagie. Ray Charles’s famous “Georgia” was penned by Hoagie too. And of course, there was StarDust.
As his songs caught on, other Alley writers were able to successfully transition too and music,and musicals were the theme of the day. His music was so much a part of Americana that many of them are just called “Standards” — songs that every vocalist is expected to be sing for their first job when they have no music of their own — just ask that heart throb of the 30’s Frank Sinatra.
“Play me a Hoagy Carmichael song and I hear the banging of a screen door and the whine of an outboard motor on a lake—sounds of summerWilliam Zinsser, author of “On Writing Well” in The American Scholar 1994
in a small-town America that is long gone but still longed for.”
Bobby Guy was born in Lambertville, Hunterdon County, New Jersey on March 28, 1916 as William Robert Guy. There is not much known about him before he started playing trumpet with the the legendary Kay Kyser band in 1936 just as the metal horn shook off its military heritage and became a “modern” musical instrument (see Uranus in the 2nd house opposite Mars in the 8th) thanks to him and fellow impresario Louis Armstrong.
Bobby joined the Kyser band on trumpet in the Spring of ’36. “A slightly imposing appearance betrayed a friendly personality. You could hear Bobby Guy’s laugh from across the room. He had a wonderful sense of humor.” Except for his stint in the service, Bobby stayed with the band until ’49. He freelanced after his KK band days, before joining NBC studios.Georgia Carroll aka Mrs. Kay Kyser
He met Rose Marie when she was performing at a New Jersey nightclub before the war where Guy was playing too. Rose Marie claimed that she three days after meeting Guy that she would marry him.
After a hiatus to serve in World War II, he and Rose Marie married in Jersey on June 19, 1946 — the day coincidentally after Kay’s birthday. In the 50’s he got a spot for the NBC orchestra & the family moved to Van Nuys California and played under contract there until his death in 1964.
The Sun at the 4th house cusp is sextile Pluto at the 7th and then sextile Uranus music in the 2nd showing how much being a musician meant to him and how he latched onto the trumpet at the right time (see his ascendant for more on that). His eager Mental Chemistry would have helped there, spotting the trend perhaps in a news article or radio show and then perfecting his “sound”.
He died of a strange and sudden blood clot (Mars in the 8th conjunct the South Node in the 7th both in Leo and conjunct the dissolving effects of Neptune at 30 Cancer – a fatal degree) on May 28, 1964 a fortnight before his 18th wedding anniversary. Rose Marie never remarried and based on his Jupiter and Sun conjunct in the 4th House, we know that chances are his sudden death was hereditary and he filled up his home life with music and laughter. He left behind a daughter, Georgiana Marie also.
We leave you bits of the Big Band sound that made the 1930’s alive and happening despite the doom and gloom of the Great Depression.
From the New York Times obit on May 29 1964.
Rose Marie’s voice was fast, crackling & husky etching the words. when you here the staccato, you remember it. She was born August 15 1923 in Manhattan New York, as Rose Marie Mazzatta (she never used it professionally) is most remembered as part of the core cast of “The Dick Van Dyke Show.” By the time that show went on the air, in 1961, she had had multiple lives in theatre , starting with her years as a child singer when was “Baby Rose Marie,” a national star on radio at 5 years old.
She loved to perform — on radio, onstage throughout the country, and in movies, making thousands upon thousands of dollars but like so many childhood stars, saw none of it for her father, Frank Mazetta, a.k.a. Frank Curley feathered his bed. The Dragon’s Tail at 12 Pisces in the 4th is conjunct radio’s Uranus at 17 in the 5th where we see the family collective impinge upon her individuality.
Rose Marie calls her father in her autobio “a mean man,” and adds that “I disliked my father intensely.” It did leave a lasting impression her relationship with Dad — Uranus is opposing Mars at 20 Leo and those Zuni never enjoy the sun , cut off at the kneecaps by a swindling father making the father-daughter relationship hollow.
Daddy never married her mother because, he had a second family elsewhere, Pluto on the 9th house cusp suggests that something is amiss in the marriage department, particularly as it is squared Saturn, inconjunct the South Node. Family life just is not living up to the ideal and new secret fathers come in the picture unforeseen. Rose Marie in her autobiography says he was a small-time gangsters — the lower rung fellows who do this when told or that when nudged.
When she and her father went to Chicago in the early nineteen-thirties, (around when Pluto was discovered) they were summoned by Al Capone to his mansion in the nearby town of Cicero, where the gangsters fawned over her and fêted her. Capone gave her a diamond ring, insisted she call him Uncle Al, and, Rose Marie adds, “Turned to my father, he says, ‘We’ll take care of her from here on in.’ ”
He was good on his word. When Rose Marie was performing at the Copacabana, in New York, sometime in the nineteen-forties, she was summoned to the table of Joseph Fischetti, Capone’s cousin, who asked if she had another gig coming up. She said no. “He says, ‘You’re gonna play Tahoe.’
“Oh, O.K. And that’s the way it went. I was going from one place to another, all because of the boys. They were absolutely wonderful to me.” When Benjamin Bugsy Siegel, one of the boys, opened the Flamingo hotel, in Las Vegas, with borrowed Mob money, Rose Marie and Jimmy Durante were its headliners.
In “Wait for Your Laugh,” she tells some extraordinary stories about Siegel, including an incident in which he coaxed her to play baccarat in his casino in order to attract customers. “I’m not a shill,” she said.
“Do it for me,” he responded, “I understand”. He gave her ten thousand dollars & she won twenty-five, stuffed it in her bra before going onstage. After the show, gave it to Siegel personally.
He told her, “You’re all right.” Five days later, he was killed. That’s show business.
Rose Marie turned to television. Seven years later she found stardom there, on “The Dick Van Dyke Show.” Created by Carl Reiner, the show is centered on a TV comedy writer played by Van Dyke but was based on Reiner’s own life (Ritchie is his son Rob Reiner who played the Meathead in the Archie Bunker Show & married Penny Marshall). While many of the show’s scenes take place in a writers’ room, where Rose Marie plays Sally Rogers, one of the writers and the only woman gag writer.
Rose Marie recommended her lifelong friend, comedian Morey Amsterdam, for the role of another writer — their inventiveness was central to the show. “… it wasn’t ad-libbed, but scripted, still we would come up with things in the middle of rehearsal and they would shove in the script,” she says.
Van Dyke says that he learned comedy from Rose Marie but for Rose Marie it was the end of an era; she was overshadowed by singer-dancer Mary Tyler Moore because, contrary to her expectations, the show was not about creating gags and scripts but on the domestic life of the head writer– another unforeseen Daddy this time co-opting her & taking center stage.
Her Part of Fortune Two Dutch Children Talking came vividly to the fore — Dick van Dyke was of Dutch heritage and Mary Tyler Moore, the ingenue, was from New Amsterdam. They, and not her and Morey, stole the show and went onto greater success. She was now yesterday’s news.
She married Bobby Guy, a trumpet player for NBC Studios, back when they had live music and Toscanini on the air. Rose Marie died in 2017 at 95 from old age. Their daughter Georgianna Rodrigues survives her.
Rose Marie is a Prism Temperament Type. It was not mentioned previously by either Robert Jansky or Marc Jones, but is something we have happened upon & was named by our Editor in Chief, Mo Saladin.
It has too great a space on either side to be a locomotive and too many conjunctions to be a splash. Rose Marie has a preponderance in Leo but that is not required. What is required is that it looks like a BUCKET with a singleton with a Grand Trine, but has an opposition so it cannot become a splay. When you find it, you have a rare PRISM.
The popular takes is that George Orson Welles has an ascendant of Gemini 26 but looking at that chart, we saw nothing spectacular that supported that idea, so we rectified it to 24 Taurus making it conjunct his Mercury and Sun. Now with a good preponderance in the tenth house and Aquarius the boy wonder comes to life.
His father was a inventor and his mother, a concert pianist. He was named after two friends of the family, George Ade and Orson Wells. When he was thirteen years old his father Richard committed suicide and made Maurice Bernstein, an orthopedic surgeon based in Chicago, his guardian. Some of this gets replayed in Welles’ Citizen Kane that is half autobiographical and half a jab at Randolph Hearst, where Mr. Bernstein still makes his appearance as Charles Foster Kane’s wearily ignored and bespeckled advisor — we did Everett Sloane’s chart earlier.
Transpluto ruled by Taurus is in the third house is next to Neptune highlighting his deep luxuriant voice, his powerful presence and versatility. With his Venus and Mars are closely allied in the twelfth house and sextile his Uranus and Moon, we find a natural yod with its head right at Venus — Orson, and it was not just in Citizen Kane, had a serious problem with her tendency to acquire beautiful women (the beautiful Rita Hayworth was his second wife; his third was an Italian actress Paola Mori) and things and a gluttonous appettite for them all.
True to his Taurean rising, Welles was fairly easy going until something provoked him, typically not getting his own way, and he raged like a caged bull and his voice bellowed, rang and shook the foundations with everyone running for cover. Such is the anger of Taurus that few forget it.
Jupiter in the eleventh highlights his incredible versatility as actor, playwright, choreographer and director and then later as spokesman and of course that Uranus right near his midheaven was the incredible genius in his Mercury Theatre and broadcast on Halloween 1938 of War of the Worlds that shook people up so much, that they ran from the houses believing we had been invaded from Mars.
Welles is a bowl temperament type, heavily tilted to the eastern pulling everything he could from his experiences and making it a resource. True to his astrological geometry, he admitted in several interviews, he never listened to anyone — much to his later regret. He died a pauper in a destitute part of L.A.; but he left a grand legacy.
Marc Jones has no time listed for Fanny (born Fania Borach) Brice and gives October 30 1891 for her birth date. Astrotheme differs with Marc Jones entirely and says she was born the day before Herbert M. Goldman’s biography, Fanny Brice the Original Funny Girl support the Astrotheme date but Astrotheme’s time of 11 am with a 01 Capricorn rising, makes no sense, so we have rectified it to one later around 5 pm, keeping Fanny in the earthly quadrature, but changes the emphasis. The correct date is October 29, 1891 at 5 PM with a Taurus 11 rising in Brooklyn, New York.The header picture is of Fanny and her third husband, Billy Rose, and the two Arnstein children from Vanity Fair, 1936.
Like many show biz people from before the first World War, she hated “phonies.” A Broadway producer once insisted he would give her “my right arm” if she worked for him. “Listen, kid,” (Fan called everyone kid copying George M. Cohan.) “I happen to know you got a whole drawer full of right arms.”Herbert Goldman, The Original Funny girl
Fanny Borach—her friends called her “Borax,” “Twenty-Mule Team Borax,” and, in “tribute” to her stage ambitions, “Bore Act”.² She stood five feet six inches tall by the time she was twelve, almost her adult height of five foot eight, and weighed about one hundred pounds. Her light brown, naturally curly hair came down to her waist, though Fanny tied it at her neck with an enormous ribbon. Her green eyes were easily her most attractive feature. ibid.
We know little about Mr. Alexander Emrick Jones, but he sure does have a lot of oppositions and a grand trine in earth == moon to Pluto to mercury, telling us he is comfortable in physical world. His temperament type is a Locomotive with an open east side that tells us that no matter how he tries, he cannot manage to take control of his life, that causes him some amount of consternation has to rely on his Neptune 01 in Sagittarius (“the Grand Army of the Republic’s campfire”) making his career dependent on other people and their information.
While we have no real time for Mr Jones, we feel that Virgo 11 (“a boy moulded in his mother’s aspiration for him” which maybe true as Demeter (an asteroid typially shown to represent the mother) is a semisextile away from his Ascendant and conjunct Uranus at 07 Libra) fits him well as he does seem to have a mutable personality — he is very people reliant and his Pluto in the first house endowing him with a magnetic & dramatic personality. His Uranus opposite the Moon makes him a lighting rod for issues he wants to understand and clarify by making them “hot buttons” and arousing people’s emotions.
This is not an unusual ploy in journalism, historically it has been called yellow dog journalism as when the papers roused up the Republic and gave us the Spanish American War or on the radio “shock jock” radio for which Joe Pyne is credited with being the first. It’s actually comical, the stereotypes, the off colour jokes and wild insinuations that the audience enjoys and makes a byword or secret code but with their opponents always cry fowl.
In New York City, Bob Grant single handedly destroyed Mario Cuomo’s career beyond New York State with a great Italian Salute in his March of the Gavones. He was too was taken off the air for a while, but eventually he came back, albeit on a different station. The New Yorker magazine gives the contra view here though they do half heartedly admit Grant was hilarious, but then his style changed over the years from the early 60’s and the Good Guys on WMCA to drive hour on WABC the then top radio station in America..
Back to Alex who with his InfoWars. His aggressive talk, Mars in the eighth opposite Uranus in the second, falls into that group which fits his most outrageous comment that Sandy Hook Connecticut was a put up job or his comment that Senator Cruz’s father was part of the Cuban mafia gang that killed Kennedy and then left conveniently for Canada where Teddy was born.
Not much has been academically studied on the ascendancy of the shock jock which is rather unfortunate for like this article states “they have racist parodies, vulgar jokes, and outrageous political statements” that blur the boundaries of real and speculation, but with newspapers recounting that Jennifer Anniston is either pregnant or remarrying Brad Pitt, is Jones alone? Is there a line where someone cannot go? and if so where does the First Amendment end and Orwell’s Big Brother begin. Of course companies can create a line but that treads very close to fascism.
The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government. ——– Cornell University Legal Institute.
There are no bombs being thrown, no World Trade Towers being blown up or dubious marches being spearheaded. Instead it is a way of listeners blowing off steam and celebrating their particular rancor particularly as Big Business (Apple is now the richest company in history FWIW) is sanctimonious in claiming that they do not want to dirty their hands while using prison labour in China. That continues until they start losing money and then they just shut up.
For Alex his method of outrage (Moon and Saturn in Taurus but in different houses) is so seemingly illogical (Saturn square Venus in Aquarius) that his opponents are thrown off for a response. That he has made lots of money doing it, also upsets his opponents. because everyone dollar he makes they feel is one they did not and his chart with Jupiter in the second house shows Jones is making buckyoo dollars and as it in Scorpio, there has to be some jealousy on that account.
That idea is not as wild as one would suppose as it is supported by the transiting Ascendant of his Twitter post on August 10th only a SemiSextile away from the natal, & so highlighting an inauspicious association between the two i.e. take away his money you take away his voice. The Mercury-Sun conjunction in the sixth house support that idea as well, and there is no doubt, this is a watershed event in Jones’s career.
You can read about his competitors, it would seem we have done plenty of them, Laura Ingraham, Milo Yiannopolous and Rachel Maddow. Each one will tell you that the other is a fool, and if they have a good song, and you can dance to it, so much the better .